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that if this is not good enough for the white house, we will go over the fiscal cliff. >> the white house rejects a republican counter offer. >> john boehner sent a proposal that offers more than $2 trillion in deficit reductions but no tax increase. >> he will not sign an extension of the bush era tax cuts for the top 2%. >> folks worried about the fiscal cliff, are you like me? are you worried about it and have no idea what it is? >> according to state tv iran's revolutionary guard captured a u.s. drone after it entered the iriranian air space over the persian gulf. >> but u.s. navy official says there are no missing drones. >> prince william and his wife katherine, expecting their first child. >> after the duchess was admitted to hospital. >> that child could grow up to be one of the most powerful unemployed people in the world. >> a search is under way in new york for a man accused of pushing another man to his death in the subway. >>> rg3, he made opportunities. >> 17-16 washington redskins. >> all that -- >> why don't you shut up? >> you are an embarrassment. >>
-style event to sort of drum up support for what the white house wants to do on fiscal cliff. you know, the president after he won re-election essentially said i know lots of you didn't vote for me. i've listened to you. i take your concerns to heart and we're going to move forward. does that apply to congressional republicans, kristen? does he hear what john boehner has to say? does he internalize it? do we hear something acknowledging republican resistance to what he laid out today in pennsylvania or not? >> reporter: well, i think he certainly is hearing and listening to john boehner, but he also believes that he has the upper hand having just won re-election and this trip to pennsylvania today is sort of a larger pr campaign that the president and the white house have been embarking on to get voters, to pressure congressional republicans to get onboard with the president's plan of increasing taxes on wealthier americans. he's traveling to pennsylvania today. he has had had business leaders here at the white house, also leaders of the progressive movement to sort of build support fo
the fiscal cliff, and achieving t the balance the white house says it wants. i made clear we put real concessions on the line by putting revenues on the table right up front. unfortunately, many democrats continue to rule out sensible spending cuts that must be part of any significant agreement that will reduce our deficit. and mr. bowles himself said there is no serious discussion of spending cuts so far. and unless there is, there is a real danger of going off the fiscal cliff. listen, going off the fiscal cliff will hurt our economy and will cost american jobs. republicans have taken action to avert the fiscal cliff by passing legislation to stop all the tax hikes. to replace the sequester, and pave way for -- pave the way for tax reform and entitlement reform. and we're the only ones with a balanced plan to protect the economy, protect american jobs, and protect the middle class from the fiscal cliff. but without spending cuts and entitlement reforms, it's going to be impossible to address our country's debt crisis. and get our economy going again and to create jobs. so right now,
proposed in a fiscal cliff deal which the white house quickly rejected because it does not raise taxes on the wealthy but aims to get the money through cuts in deductions. senator jim demint denounced boehner's plan as a tax hike that will, quote, destroy american jobs and allow politicians in washington to spend even more. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell also distanced himself from the boehner plan declining to endorse it yesterday. >> we've wasted enormous amount of time here sparring back and forth in public, and it strikes me it's a good time to get serious about the proposals. so i have no other particular observation than i commend the house republican leadership for trying to move the process along and getting to a point where hopefully we can have a real discussion. >> but why is the the gop still hot on its desire to raise money through cuts and deductions rather than an actual increase in the top end tax rate? well, i think it's likely because the most ductions in states happen to be the higher blue states. in other words, the gop wants the states that largely reelecte
averting the fiscal cliff, but he's just not talking to house republicans about it. at the white house, he discussed the issue with a bipartisan group of governors. >> i know that the president wants a deal and he didn't try to handicap it. >> reporter: earlier this week, he told so-called middle class americans on twitter, keep pressure on congress. he's even ventured outside the beltway rallying supporters to do just that. >> i'm going to be asking for you to be making your voices heard. >> reporter: why isn't he calling speaker boehner? >> we speak frequently. >> reporter: when will the two of you sit down in a room? >> i don't think the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. >> reporter: in part, the white house was burned with the negotiations in 2011 when lots of meetings failed to stave off a fiscal nightmare. but there's another strategy at play. some in the administration say they learned in the first term the best way to break washington stalemates, rally the public to their cause. here's how the president put it to cbs news. >> so getting out of this town, spending mo
geithner's presentation of the white house proposal to avoid the fiscal cliff earlier in week "nonserious." >> i was flabbergasted. i lookedded a him like you can't be serious. i've just never seen anything like it. you know we have seven weeks between election day and the end of the year. three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. >> reporter: here is what has the speaker flabbergasted. the white house would like to raise tax rates on top earners to where they were in the clinton administration, 39.6%. they would also like to raise $1.6 trillion with new taxes over the next decade, while cutting about $400 billion through entitlement reform. although, those cuts are not specific and not guaranteed. but the treasury secretary says the administration's plan is fiscally responsible and would prevent taxes from going up on 98% of americans. >> we think that is a very good set of proposals. we think it's good for the economy. if they have different suggestions they want to go further in some areas, then they should lay odds with us. >> reporter: secretary geithner said he canno
on fox news sunday. discussing the stalemate of the fiscal cliff between white house and republicans on capitol hill. i sat down with the anchor chris wallace to hear more about the exclusive interview interviews. >> you had two key players. >> we had tim geithner the point man for president. and john boehner, the point man for the congressional and house republicans. >> geithner made the offer to boehner on thursday. boehner said, tells us, he was flabbergasted and said you can't be serious. it called for doublebe what the president talked about in public. not $800 billion in new revenue but $1.6 trillion in revenue. only $600 million in entitlement and spending cuts. well, that is not one to one or three to one. more revenue than spending cuts. they are really far away now. i understand negotiations. i understand opening bid. for first time, it occurred to me they might not get it done. >> you get a sense hearing from both of them that is a real possibility. what do you make of the negotiation of the tactic? it seems like what secretary geithner behalf of the president brought to t
's economy goes over the so-called fiscal cliff. the white house and congressional republicans said to be deadlocked. president obama released his plan. it includes 1.6 trillion dollars in new tax increases. 50 billion in new stimulus spending. and stimulus, and new power to raise the debt ceiling without congressional approval. tim geithner, john boehner appearing with chris wallace on fox news sunday. >> we're nowhere, period. we're nowhere. we put a serious offer on the table by putting revenues up there to get this question resolved but the white house has responded with virtually nothing. they have actually asked for more revenue than they have been asking the whole entire time. >> in kind of a tough position now. it is going to be, obviously a little hard for them now. they're trying to figure out where they go next. we might need to give them a little more time to let them go next. we did what you expect from us. we laid out a very detailed, carefully designed set of spending savings and tax changes that help put us back on a path to fiscal responsibility. bill: where are we
to actually go over the fiscal cliff. just one day after the treasury secretary said the white house is absolutely prepared to do just that under certain circumstances a leading economist is echoing those sentiments. >> i would not come up with a deal unless it's a really good deal before the end of the year. i would take it into next year if that means you're going to get a better deal. >> let's bring in our senior congressional correspondent dana bash. dana, democrats are saying this is either raise tax rates for the wealthy or they are prepared to go over the cliff. there must be a lot of fear up there about all of this. what are you hearing in the halls of congress? >> reporter: there's a lot of fear. there's no question on both sides of the aisle. even top republicans disagree with that. even republicans who don't want to give on that big issue dan talked about, tax rates for the wealthy. john kyle, number two republican in the senate i spoke with him and he said he thinks any deal would be better than going over the cliff. the reason is because there's so many problems, real li
pulling off their own plan to deal with the fiscal cliff. connell: the white house predictably saying, no deal. the parameters are there now. we can start to imagine what a deal may look like. >> i think that is right. they have been adamant in saying we want more revenue. they have kept the rates down. they have had spending cuts. i think they will find a deal just over a trillion in revenue. dagen: it is a turnaround for the republicans to say that we will raise revenue. how they get to it is very different from anything we have heard from president obama. >> i think that the president and the democrats are dug in. they want to raise the marginal tax rates for the upper earners of america. they are willing to allow a deal to lapse rather than have the tax rate rise. connell: maybe there is not a deal taking shape. they could say something like, we will raise these rates, but instead of $250,000, it has to be $500,000 or $1 million. there are ways to play a round with this. >> i think the republicans would lose, frankly, being the majority in the house. if they go ahead and give the
at 2 p.m. eastern time, about the fiscal cliff all part of the white house's my2k twitter campaign w-9 president drumming up support for taxes on the rich. george hw bush in stabbe condition after receiving stream for a bronchitis-related cough. the 88-year-old has been in the hospital for a week receiving treatment visited by several of his children including former president george w. bush. the royal family getting a new member. the st. james' palace saying they are expecting a baby. the queen and members of the both pams are delighted with the news. the duchess is in the very early stages of pregnancy. those are the head lines. >> oh, that's fun. a royal baby. >> yes, thank you, lauren greern. >> sure. >> to charlie, the president must want fat cats to support the plan to end the fiscal cliff impasse. we have the behind the scene meetings between the executives. >> caught a lot of people by surprise. it was last week where deputy secretary of state, tom nides, went to the city, held a series of meetings, which senior wall street executives, the two meetings i know about, larry fink,
the democrats of not offering any serious proposals to avoid going over the fiscal cliff and shortly after the white house and the democrats answered that the republicans had not offered any of their own plans. is this something that's going to be able to be taken care of while you're still a representative or is it going to land in your lap when you move to the other chamber? >> you know, i hope we get it done, obviously. we want to avoid the cliff. it is a little troubling that we don't have any real plans or offers on the spending side. i think on the revenue side it's pretty clear by knew republicans are willing to give up more revenue, but we've got to see a balance. there's got to be spending cuts and if those have been offered, i'm not sure what they are. >> suarez: are you one of those members who's staked out a position on whether it has to be rates or effective revenue and not rates? >> well, i think it can be effective revenue. obviously it depends on where you put the level of deductions that can be taken. so i'd rather not raise rates at all. i think it can be done without tha
to go straight over the fiscal cliff. major garrett is at the white house. major, gd morning. >> reporter: good morning, charlie and norah. the president will cross over the potomac into northern virginia to meet with a family who says their taxes don't go up, they'll be happier and spend more money. that's the pr side of this. much more important, the context of the deal, keet players yesterday picked up the phone. phone call relatively brief and substantive. details remain elusive. it was shorter, sources say, to last week's 28-minute conversation described them as curt, direct and frank. no one familiar with this call used such barbed words. it also occurred before treasury secretary tim geithner laid down this harsh fiscal cliff marker. >> is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. again, there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans. remember, it's only 2%. >> reporter: that danger not enough to keep congress in session. it's already quit for
treasury secretary said the white house is, in fact, ready to go straight over the fiscal cliff. major garrett is at the white house. major, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, norah and charlie. later on this afternoon the president will travel across the potomac river to northern virginia to meet a middle-class family to make the self-evident point if the there is a deal and taxes are raised by about $2,000 they'll be happier and spend more money. that's the p.r. side of this. much more importantly, for the deal, the two key players yesterday picked up the phone. the phone call relatively brief and substantive, though details remain illusive. shorter, sources say. the last week 28-minute conversation described then as curt, direct and frank. no one with this call used such barbed words and occurred before treasury secretary tim geithner laid down this harsh fiscal cliff marker. >> if the administration, are they prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. no prospect or agreement that doesn't involve those rates going on on the top 2%. remember, only 2%. >> reporter: th
ago. he was asked flat out is the white house ready to go over the fiscal cliff and boom he says, absolutely, as if that is a good thing. i mean there are defense contractors who are going to be laying off workers, there are all kinds of negative ramifications to all of this. but the white house apparently is ready to take the jump. >> well, they are certainly ready to say it. the republicans have a weaker hand than i thought they would originally have about a couple months ago, but the idea that president obama wants to start his second term by plunging the country into a recession, a huge sell off in the stock market, and by being perceived as generally sort of willing to play chicken with the economy doesn't sound like a brilliant political move to me. jon: you think that's all talk? >> i think it's a game of chicken, i really do. i think that the republicans would probably get a lot of blame in the beginning, and that's maybe what they are thinking of and they are trying to scare the republicans, but over the long term there is just no way this administration wants to go over
the conversation on the fiscal cliff. meantime we're awaiting new reaction from white house press secretary jay carney. there is a live look at the podium in the west wing. you can see it is empty right now. jay carney should be stepping up to the microphone momentarily and we expect the topic a is going to be the fiscal cliff and the white house position on it. let's talk about it with angela mcglowan, fox news political analyst. you have been in washington. >> for a very long time. jon: i'm not going to say that. you're way too young to have been there a long time but you know how these things work. >> yes. jon: is this all political posturing? is there stuff really going on behind the scenes that we don't know about or hear about? >> this is political theater at its best. anytime both sides offer a plan that's when the negotiating process starts. the optimist here. i do believe we will come to a deal, jon. i think you will see a lot more political posturing but you are having policy wonks behind the scenes crunching the numbers so they can work out a deal. jon: well the president has said th
and republican side on the fiscal cliff. some breaking news on what the white house asked for and whether republicans are going to give it to them. we're going to talk about that. back to you. >> we'll be watching you top of the hour. thanks so much. >> up next, the vice president of the united states, joe biden, goes shopping and eating. >> get fat just walking through this store. >> the vp visited costco, but needed some help with his shopping list. jeanne moos shows us why. to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. our commitment has never been stronger. of washington about the future of medicare and social security. anncr: but you deserve straight talk about the options on the... table and what they mean for you and your family. ancr: aarp is cutting through all the political spin. because for our 37 million membe
. >> thank you. >> brown: after the election, it's all fiscal cliff, right? let's talk about how the white house is using social media and online efforts on that issue. >> it's as if this massive social media machine that propelled barack obama into office never stopped moving. and you found that at the white house today where he gave a speech talking about the fiscal cliff, introducing the hashtag-- which is a way of grouping something-- my2k, which is a playoff of waoeubgt, ther of y2. he's saying if you don't do something you are going to have to pay as middle-class taxpayers, $2,000 allegedly. >> if congress doesn't stop the automatic tax hikes. >> brown: but this was in the context of a whole week where he's making his play, right? but doing it online? >> it's fascinating with the president of the united states building it around a twitter campaign, we've come to take that for granted but i did a little search for this my2k. on twitter. barack obama comes up second. you know what comes up first? the conservative heritage foundation which bought a promoted tweet, which means theirs goe
ne geithner announced of of the white house that we would, quote, absolutely go over the fiscal cliff which would trigger tax cuts and spending increases unless taxes increase on the top two percent of wage earnings. >> i want you you to understand when it comes to raising taxes on the wealthy. if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthy. >> all right. it appears the very definition of the american dream is now being rewritten by president barack obama. now, today our commander-in-chief publicly said he's not going to play games with the fiscal cliff, but that is just not reality. right now the president is playing a very dangerous game of chicken and this is with your paycheck and the american dream. meanwhile, the republicans have allowed themselves to get caught in a circular firing squad. they're negotiating publicly among themselves while true conservatives and tea party members are being removed from ke
% savings. melissa: as washington is in the middle of this tumultuous fiscal cliff negotiations from a white house looking for more money in the terms of emotions the aid request rebuilding efforts. still willing from super storm sandy here in the northeast. peter barnes in washington with the latest on that effort. speaker according to "the new york times" for white house will be looking for about $50 billion to help rebuild from hurricane sandy. officials testifying declined to comment that number but they did say the white house will be sending in disaster relief bill up to congress by the end of the week. the three hardest hit states: new york, new jersey and connecticut alone are seeking $80 billion in federal help. the administration is teeing up a big request. >> much of the impact of sandy go beyond fema programs. fema's assistance is limited, maximum benefits of individual family could receive is about $31,000 if they have no assurance. others that will not rebuild destroyed or damaged home to did not have insurance. >> woke up to this headline. u.s. denies aid to the maryland storm
at the white house with more. >> reporter: exactly one month ago to avoid the fiscal cliff and after a period of optimism and what we have right now is a typical white house standoff. visiting a toy factory outside philadelphia, president urged congress to act and avoid the fiscal cliff. if not, taxes go up for everyone, including the middle class. >> that is like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> reporter: the president has started a new campaign for votes in congress. a grassroots effort on twitter and a friday trip in swing distri districts. allow rates to rise on the upper 2% of earners while extending lower rates for everyone else. >> it is not acceptable for you for the handful of republicans and democrats in congress to hold tax cuts hostage because they don't want tax rates to go up on upper income folks. >> reporter: mr. obama's opening bid includes $1.6 trillion in new revenue. half from higher rates in the wealthy. cuts in medicare and $50 billion in new infrastructure spending. when tim geithner laid out the plan for mitch mcconnell, aides on b
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of that but disaster relief is being held hostage by the fiscal cliff. how much pressure does this additional pressure put on republicans, seeing chris christie show up at the white house knowing that he needs money for his hard-hit state? >> it's a tremendous amount of pressure. part of what the strategy of think of what we're see hearing is the republicans are becoming increasingly isolated. you think about the discharge position. essentially even if they don't sign on to it, the point is they're going to own this mess. they're the ones who are seen to be, as the public suggests, not willing to make a deal. it is not unreasonable. we've all seen those horrifying images from the devastation of hurricane sandy. it's not unreasonable the governor of the state of new jersey would come and say i need help. americans are going to see that. they see the republicans becoming increasingly sort of isolated and, again, it becomes this question of why are you holding the rest of us hostage for the top 2%? so the problem for the republicans is they don't have a lot of good options at this point to get themselves
geithner may have frightened people yesterday saying the white house is prepared to go off the fiscal cliff unless republicans bend on taxes. a comment by former democratic potential candidate howard deen frightened republicans that the debate is not just about raising taxes on the rich. >> the truth is everybody needs to take more taxes, not just the rich. that's a good start, but we're not going to get out of the deficit problem unless we raise taxes across the board. to go back to what bill clinton had. >> now, some liberals pushed the president to invoke the 14th amendment claiming that gives him the executive power to raise the debt limit himself, but jay said today the white house studied that proposition and decided the president does not have that executive power meaning we headed for another show down with congress over raising the debt ceiling. lou: the fiscal cliff and now a new ultimatum on the national debt ceiling. you suppose this is the last condition? >> it's going to be a wild couple of months, maybe everybody thought with the election over, there was going to be peace and
party. you're a republican, he's democrat. 30 days and counting until we go over the fiscal cliff unless congress in the white house cuts a deal to avoid tax cuts. it sounds like two groups of people are looking at two different sets of numbers. take a look. >> we prefer to do upfront alongside a deal that includes raising rates on americans. we are prepared to do a meaningful amount of spending on the saving side, not just to avoid the damage of the sequester but to help reduce our long-term deficit. >> i was disappointed by the president's proposal. i think it is essentially a rerun of his budget proposal. the revenue proposals are $1.6 trillion in revenue and tax increases. it's a massive tax increase. but also not significant and meaningful in entitlement reforms. >> so, anna, i hear comments like those and remarks by john boehner and the president of the united states and i wonder after the election, did we learn anything? because i -- my reading on the election was that the people, the voters wanted compromise. and for the people in washington to talk to each other not at each othe
. >>> talks between the white house and republicans over the fiscal cliff are grinding to a hold. house speaker john boehner dealing with division in the gop's ranks to his budget plan. we've got a shanghai surprise. china's mainland markets up over nearly 3% after beijing's new leaders called for economic stability and new business growth. and it looks like more austerity for britain. george osborne getting ready to release his autumn statement. >>> nokia shares a little bit high today. they are teaming up with china mobile, giving access to the world's biggest mobile phone markets. >>> if you just got up, very warm welcome to the start of your global trading day. stocks are on the front foot this morning. this is where we stand with u.s. futures. currently called up around about 30 points higher. the dow down, what, 13 points? the nasdaq called up just under 40 points. the s&p 500 at the moment is called up just over three points. it was down two points yesterday. european stocks doing a little built better. they were as flat as a pancake, as i've been saying. as flat as my pancakes.
is at the white house for us tonight. major? >> reporter: scott, the white house does not deny opening fiscal cliff proposals ignore persistent republican demands for deeper spending cuts than the president has already proposed. that's the point. no matter how close the country comes to plunging off the fiscal cliff, topped a visors say the president will not budge until republicans acknowledge they will keep tax rates where they are for middle income families and raise them on households earning more than $250,000 a year. >> in washington nothing's easy so there's going to be prolonged negotiations. and all of us are going to have so get out of our comfort zones to make that happen. g'm willing to do that. i'm hopeful that enough members of con willing to do that as well. we can solve these problems. but where the clock is really ticking right now is on middle- class taxes. >> reporter: but the clock isng. the cold political reality is this: mr. obama is now on record seeking twice as much in higher tax revenue than the democratically controlled senate passed earlier this year with only 51 v
obama, the white house, congressional democrats, want to go over the fiscal cliff because they believe that it is more politically advantageous for them to do so. is that a sentiment you agree with or not? >> i believe that the president and the democrats see a political victory at the bottom of the fiscal cliff. i see financial problems for our country at the bottom of the fiscal cliff with unemployment over 9%, and another recession. i think -- i want to find a solution working with people on both sides of the aisle but when you have howard dean, the former chairman of the democratic national committee, you have patty murray, who ran the democratic senatorial committee encouraging going over the cliff i think it's irresponsible. i think we ought to have the president sitting down with john boehner, finding solutions that can, one, pass the house, and, two, be signed by the president, and i believe if you find that solution, it will pass the senate. >> senator john barrasso, thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> next on "andrea mitchell reports" -- as the house heads home, are dem
the republican counteroffer, the proposal to avoid the so called fiscal cliff. it is a $2.2 trillion offer that does not raise the tax rate on the wealthiest americans and that has become the central issue of the negotiations. the white house says republicans still are not ready to get serious. susan mcginnis is in washington with the back and forth details. susan, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, terrell. gop leaders here on capitol hill sent their plan to the white house in this letter on monday, and now that both initial offers are out there, both sides say it's time to get serious. governors from six states are headed here to washington today to tell president obama their thoughts on the fiscal cliff. the bipartisan group says both sides need to work together to avoid the tax increases and spending cuts due to kick in at the end of the year. >> no one's going to get what they want, but as a country to move forward, we've got to figure out who gives where, and if everything is going to be out on the table, how do we negotiate that? >> reporter: republicans have given a co
his plan to avert the fiscal cliff. at the home of what the white house called a typical middle class family, mr. obama said he's optimistic that agreement can be reached, but again drew a hard line for republicans in congress. >> everybody's is going to have to share in some sacrifice. but it starts with folks who are in the best position to sacrifice. who are in the best position to step up . just to be clear i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up, the top 2% from going up. >> woodruff: the president phoned house speaker john boehner yesterday, their first direct talk in almost a week. but today white house spokesman jay carney wouldn't share details of the call. >> we believe it's in the interest of achieving an agreement not to do that. >> reporter: treasury secretary timothy geithner said yesterday the white house was absolutely willing to go over the cliff if republicans held firm in their opposition to raising rates on the wealthy. but it was the administration's other demand-- to give the president authority over the nation's debt ce
house at the business roundtable about the economy. fiscal cliff certainly the issue in the short term for a lot of big businesses and certainly for a lot of american taxpayers. however, long term is another story when it comes to the economy, and entitlements, the president referring to that as well. as we continue to get that feedback you can check it out, in the meantime we're going to move onto other news as well. >> reporter: and so let's begin with the violence that is appearing to really spiral out of control. secretary of state hillary clinton says she fears a desperate president bashar al-assad in syria may resort to using chemical weapons on his own people. in the meantime, the united nations is hint thag there wil hinting that there will be no asylum for bashar al-assad as the syrian dictator makes it clear that he will die before leaving the country under any circumstances. what is going on behind the scenes, for that we turn to corn powell following all the latest developments from our mideast bureau in jerusalem. connor. >> reporter: the international and inte
." democrats are calling president obama's plan to avoid the fiscal cliff an opening bid. some republicans have different words for it, joke. >> major garret is at the white house and reports on the president's plan and the strong reaction it got from republicans on capitol hill. major, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, charlie and norah t. the white house brought real numbers and republicans called them an insult, concocted in never neverland. so much for a week of work here in washington to avert what's called the fiscal cliff. treasury secretary tim geithner gave house republicans new ideas on resolving the fiscal cliff. and left with their anger ringing throughout the capitol. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. i've got to tell you, i'm disappointed. >> reporter: here are the big white house numbers. for $4 trillion deficit reduction in ten years, $1.6 trillion comes from households earning more than $250,000 a year. $400 billion in entitlement cuts in program like medicare and medicaid and $50 billion
senate democrats said they won't consider proposals to saw void the so-called fiscal cliff. not until the gop agrees that tax rates will go up on the wealthiest of americans. they said it from the beginning. president obama visited a family in virginia to layout his case. the white house says it is one of thousands of middle class families facing higher taxes if congress doesn't reach some sort of deal. house speaker insists the republicans will not go along with a higher tax rate for anybody, but an incrowsing number of republicans -- an increasing number of republicans are saying they will have to give in to democrats' demands. you know i read a number of websites that said republicans have waived the white flag on some issues, but not all of them. assuring republicans they don't have to vote for a tax increase. >> and it technically may be correct, but not many are buying this new strategy from the white house since the tax cuts from the middle class and those from the top 2% are both set to expire at the end of the year. the white house says congress really only has to extend one
, fiscal cliff threatening the economy, but maybe not? we take it all up with moody's chief economist, and deutsche bank senior economist here next. stay with us. lou: you know, it may surprise some that december is historically the strongest month for investors. the s&p500 posting gains in december, 82% of the time since 1990. it's that 18% that should trouble folks, but are concerns with the fiscal cliff giving investors a reason to be less than optimistic? joining me is john, and carl, senior economist for deutsche bank. gentlemen, thank you for being here. start with the treasury secretary. the man in charge of our treasury is out telling everyone that the administration he works for is a part of is perfectly prepared to go over the fiscal cliff in order to raise a tax rate to 39.6%. does that make any sense to you? are you shocked, surprised? >> well, i guess i'm not surprised given we're in the early stages of the discussion, but for the economists and forecasters out there calling this is the fiscal slope, not a cliff or believe it's worthwhile to go over the cliff, it's not th
henry, chief white house correspondent. up next, tax hikes, overspending, uncertainty, fiscal cliff threatening the economy, but maybe not? we take it all up with moody's iefonomist, and deuche bank senior economist here next. stay with us. with the spark cash card from capital one, olaf gets great rewas for his small business! pizza! [ garth ] olaf's small busins earns 2% cash back on every purchase, ery day! helium delivery. put it on my spark rd! [ pop! ] [ garth ] why settleor less? great businesses deserve great rewards! awesome!!! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? we don't let frequent heartburn come between us and what we love. so if you're onef them people who gets heartburn and then treats day afr day... block the acid with prilosec otc and don't get heartburn in the first place! [ male announcer ] e pill eachmorning. 24 hours. zero heartbur lou: you know, it may surprise some that december is historically the strongest month for investo
beer! ♪ . melissa: and now, to the fiscal cliff. things seem to take a 180 as news out of the white house indicated progress, made. earlier senator orrin hatch said both sides were about dal billion away from a deal. that sounds like a lot. in washington that is nothing, going over the cliff. we were looking more than 600 dal billion in tax increases and spending cuts. wall street was pleased what they heard today. the president is meeting with top ceos as we speak. make of that what you like. with his take, wyoming senator john barrasso. thanks for coming back to the show. we always appreciate your time. >> thank you, melissa. melissa: what do you think? are we getting closer? to me 23 dal billion, that is a little money. but to you guyuys that is coins in the couch cushion. >> i want to find a solution. i want us to get to an answer on this. some democrats said we should go over the fiscal cliff. i think that would be a mistake. i met earlier today with the same ceos that the president is meeting with at this hour. we need to find a solution. it has to be a he had consider credibl
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